Thursday, January 28, 2010

Howard Zinn: A fitting epitaph

From the blog Solomania

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Waterboarding didn't work?

Or did someone claim it did, when he really wasn't in a position to make that claim?

As you can see from the FP article, Kiriakou's 'hand-wringing' admission is the basis of a bit of triumphalism from those who think it is always immoral to water board. Why? It relieves them of a burden: If it really was not effective, then they need not be put in the position of having to defend the absolutist position that it is always and in every case immoral to use water boarding, even in the face of grave threat and apparent effectiveness. Whew! That's a relief. This blockbuster news puts water boarding defenders in the weak position again. Right?

Not so fast. What about the people that actually were in a position to make a claim as to the efficacy of water boarding. Do we have any information from the people in the room?

Well yes according to this guy

They have an understandable desire to protect themselves, so they spoke up. And apparently, water boarding was effective. This book looks to be an interesting read, to say the least.

Whither triumphalism?